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My brief critique
  • oldcityoldcity March 2010
    Grr.
    Had looked forward to 3.0. Tried it on an older machine and would not boot as livecd. Just got vertical lines. No joy.
    Tried a Dell B110 w/768 mb Ram with an ACER 18.5 X183CH crt and it booted livecd. However like 2.0 the fonts are so big it overpowers (takes up) too much real estate and is not acceptable. The splash screen has the buttons only showing the top half. A site like yahoo is too big to fit the screen.
    Until this is corrected...
  • seawolfseawolf March 2010
    Hi @oldcity --

    I think this is the result of a very basic video driver being used automatically with your graphics set-up.

    Could you possibly tell me what the output of these commands are, please?
    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
    lspci | grep VGA

    Hopefully we can customise the configuration to improve it. That's the thing with LiveCDs, they have to work, sometimes they need to adjust to a very basic config. if the environment is a bit technically strange.

    Thanks.
  • erniaernia March 2010
    should be
    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver 
    :)
  • oldcityoldcity March 2010
    Results from Dell B110
    hth
    @oldcity:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
    Driver "kbd"
    Driver "mouse"
    @oldcity:~$ lspci | grep vga
    @oldcity:~$ l
  • seawolfseawolf March 2010
    Thanks, @oldcity.

    The commands are case-sensitive; please try with upper-case VGA.
    Alternatively, just the output of lspci will be fine :)
    This is to identify the graphics chip the system has.

    Hopefully we can then identify the appropriate driver and further suggestions.

    Thanks!
  • jozeejozee March 2010
    Suggestion: use "grep -i" to ignore case distinctions
  • kultexkultex March 2010
    @jozee perhaps xorgmaker.sh can be adopted to Slitaz

    I found the code here

    http://forums.wolvix.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=658.0

    its also used and developed in lin2go http://lin2go.com/downloads.shtml

  • oldcityoldcity March 2010
    l@oldcity:~$ lspci | grep VGA
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
    @oldcity:~$
  • ChristopheChristophe April 2010
    I do have the same issues with slitaz 3.0 (the final release)

    $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
    Driver "kbd"
    Driver "mouse"
    ### Available Driver options are:-
    Driver "vesa"

    $ lspci | grep VGA
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controllerller] (rev 04)

    Also Slitaz does not recognise my integrated Wifi card (this is an old Dell C400)

    Any idea what can be done to solve that ?
  • ChristopheChristophe April 2010
    anyone has any idea on that ? thanks
  • erniaernia April 2010
    try reading these:
    http://forum.slitaz.org/index.php/discussion/comment/4786/#Comment_4786
    http://forum.slitaz.org/index.php/discussion/1012/broadcom-4312-wireless-not-working-on-dell-mini-9

    if it does not work post the output of lspci relative to your wireless card, even if i'm not sure to can help you
  • ChristopheChristophe April 2010
    incidently, on another machine which has an ATI card, i tried to load some ati driver after following the instructions of on of the post and is says

    Unable to find : get-xorg-xf86-video-ati-6.9.0 in the mirrored packages list

    (while the command i typed states otherwise:

    tux@slitaz:~$ tazpkg search xf86-video

    Search result for : xf86-video

    Installed packages
    ================================================================================
    xorg-xf86-video-vesa 2.0.0 x-window
    ================================================================================
    1 installed package(s) found for : xf86-video

    Available packages name-version
    ================================================================================
    xorg-xf86-video-ati-6.9.0
    xorg-xf86-video-geode-2.10.1
    [other packages listed here removed]


    I guess something needs to be fixed here in the packages.... :(
  • ChristopheChristophe April 2010
    For the wifi the components are:
    PCI1410 PC Car Cardbus Controller
    TrueMobile 1150 Series PC Card
    WLAN Interface

    This is what i get from the appropriate Ubuntu interface

    lspci returns a bunch of lines, two of them being

    02:01.0 Cardbus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI 1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (Rev 02)
    02:03.0 Cardbus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI 1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (Rev 01)

    I can't go any further from here.... :(
    Thanks
  • slicelslicel April 2010
    Cristophe, the package not found starts with "get" while the others do not.

    Get-x installs x.

    On the wifi, I used to find all the technical id numbers (chipsets, etc.) and google them with the words "linux" and "module."

    I also once had a non-wifi 3com card whose "correct" module was buggy and needed a patch.
  • seawolfseawolf April 2010
    I'm a bit confused now. How many card and configs and machines do we have now, three?

    @oldcity could try to install the xorg-xf86-video-intel package, switch the Driver line from vesa to intel and load the intel* kernel modules, as discussed in another thread.

    @christophe would need to:
    tazpkg get-install xorg-xf86-video-ati
    to get the drivers. Again, the xorg.conf line should then be switched.

    I'm unfamiliar with that wi-fi, is it a PCMCIA external card thingy?
  • ChristopheChristophe April 2010
    I see why you comment this way but I did a copy past so i do not understand what went wrong. Below the exact sequence (i should have done that at first)

    root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg get-install xorg-xf86-video-ati-6.9.0

    Unable to find : xorg-xf86-video-ati-6.9.0 in the mirrored packages list.


    Unable to find : get-xorg-xf86-video-ati-6.9.0 in the mirrored packages list.

    root@slitaz:/home/tux#

  • seawolfseawolf April 2010
    Ah. You don't need to include the version number as you'll downlaod the newest version anyway.

    tazpkg get-install xorg-xf86-video-ati
  • ChristopheChristophe April 2010
    For the wifi card:

    since it works properly under ubunt: what would be the commands to find what driver or module is loaded by the kernel under ubuntu ? wouldn't it be a good start ? and what would be the steps to proceed from here ?
    Thanks

  • ChristopheChristophe April 2010
    For the ati driver: lol i really don't get it, but it installed after i suppressed the version number. In fact it appends the version number again and install that thing. Where would be the fun if there was no mystery ;)

    root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg get-install xorg-xf86-video-ati

    xorg-xf86-video-ati-6.9.0
    Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (94.23.60.116:80)
    xorg-xf86-video-ati- 100% |*******************************| 169k --:--:-- ETA

    Installation of : xorg-xf86-video-ati-6.9.0
    ================================================================================
    Copying xorg-xf86-video-ati-6.9.0... [ OK ]
    Extracting xorg-xf86-video-ati-6.9.0... 340 blocks
    Extracting the pseudo fs... (lzma) 1091 blocks
    Installing xorg-xf86-video-ati... [ OK ]
    Removing all tmp files... [ OK ]
    ================================================================================
    xorg-xf86-video-ati (6.9.0) is installed.

    root@slitaz:/home/tux#
  • ChristopheChristophe April 2010
    @seawolf: sorry for the confusion.
    I have a desktop and a Dell C400 laptop.

    The discussion about the ATI driver concerns my desktop, on which Slitaz runs well (and i installed the ati driver as you recommended). Consider this as SOLVED.

    On my Dell C400 i have 2 problems:
    - a screen definition problem similar to what oldcity mentionned (I understand this is not necessarily the exact same cause though). Slitaz allows me to have 800x640 resolution only, while that laptop supports 1024x768.

    - a wifi card recognition problem. That wifi card is not exactly and external PCI one. In these Dell there are 2 "internal" tiny slots, one for the modem one for a wifi card. Dell calls that "TrueMobile 1150 Series Mini PCI Card". It works out of the box with ubuntu, pclos, and i seem to remember, with DSL (but I could be wrong on that one). I am just hoping to have it work with slitaz as well.

    For my screen resolution I will follow the recommandation you provide to oldcity to get the intel drivers, it could be the same, and will post the result.
  • slicelslicel April 2010
    I do not know the ubuntu command but I would check the ubuntu wifi module.
  • erniaernia April 2010
    @Christophe
    may you post the output of lsmod?
  • ChristopheChristophe April 2010
    lsmod output is

    Module Size Used by Not tainted
    yenta_socket 20988 1
    rsrc_nonstatic 9136 1 yenta_socket
    pcmcia_core 27628 2 yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
    3c59x 35904 0
    snd_intel8x0m 12204 0
    snd_intel8x0 26724 1
    snd_ac97_codec 88736 2 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0
    ac97_bus 1308 1 snd_ac97_codec
    snd_pcm 51780 3 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
    snd_timer 16344 1 snd_pcm
    snd 43584 7 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
    soundcore 5180 1 snd
    snd_page_alloc 7256 3 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
  • kultexkultex April 2010
    the dell true mobile is a relabeld orinoco pcmcia card http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=472912 - I have no idea, if the orinoco driver is available

    try
    modprobe orinoco_cs

  • slicelslicel April 2010
    Unfortunately, I see 3c59x in your output and orinoco in other websites. With help from either domcox or deadwait, I dealt with those on the old forum and well documented a patch needed for either one of those or a similar module ( I do not remember which) but all that work was deleted last year with the old forum and the forum manager with the archive has not posted the material.

    Find the ubuntu module with lsmod, modinfo, or similar commands and try that module.

    http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man8/lsmod.8.html

    http://www.dipalo.com/c400.html

    Edit- Kultex and I were typing at the same time.
  • ChristopheChristophe April 2010
    modprobe orinoco_cs

    did the job, thanks for the hint! (it appears as eth1 instead of wlan0 but who cares)

    Now I still have to solve the display issue.
    Actually the only display i get is 640x480x24, I believe
    loading the intel driver, and changing the xorg.conf as descibed here ==>

    http://forum.slitaz.org/index.php/discussion/949/prob.-resolution-et-mhz-de-mon-ecran/#Item_4

    by erjo did not work ((tazhsw command return en error msg from sh
    -sh: tazhsw: not found)
  • kultexkultex April 2010
    the xorg - xvesa driver has troubles with intel chips (its a i830)

    first try the xvesa.iso http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/3.0/flavors/slitaz-3.0-xvesa.iso

    if this does not help you have to install the intel driver in xorg like erjo - just in case I give you another link

    http://forum.slitaz.org/index.php/discussion/comment/493/#Comment_493
  • jozeejozee April 2010
    Christophe:

    by erjo did not work ((tazhsw command return en error msg from sh
    -sh: tazhsw: not found)

    Its a typo ; it should be tazhw.

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