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  • slicelslicel October 2009
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    Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

    Chap chose another linux instead of slitaz because slitaz was not friendly to floppy install- http://forum.slitaz.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12989#p12989 .

    Ran chose tinylinux instead of slitaz because slitaz was too difficult to install- http://forum.slitaz.org/viewtopic.php?id=1140 .

    Some people want to use whatever is in their closet without getting any new hardware and that can mean no cd but a stack of floppies..

    Solution-

    Make floppy flavor with instructions for installation on a few floppies-

    -Only browser is "links" (first public slitaz was 15mb- http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/archive … 84208.html ).
    -Working dialup.
    -Text login as boot default (type startx for gui).

    Thank you.

    Last edited by slicel (2009-08-03 19:20:26)

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    #2 2009-08-03 21:53:03

    bellard
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    Re: Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

    Hi,

    You can install Slitaz using floppies with the following steps:

    1- build floppies on a Windows box with Internet access

    Download a kernel http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/bzImage

    Download a initramfs and rename it to rootfs.gz
    If the target box has 160Mb+ use http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/rootfs.gz
    If the target box has 64Mb+ use http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/rootfs-loram.
    If the target box has 48Mb+ use http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/rootfs-justx.
    If the target box has 24Mb+ use http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/rootfs-base.g

    If the target box is running Windows9x, download http://busybox.net/~vda/linld/LINLD.COM

    If the target box is running Windows NT/2k/XP, download http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/grldr

    Archive these files on floppies with your favorite utility (arj, winzip...)

    2- extract floppies on target box

    If the box is running Windows9x type:
    C:\> linld image=bzimage initrd=rootfs.gz "cl=rw root=/dev/null autologin"

    If the box is running Windows NT/2k/XP
    - append boot.ini with c:\grldr="slitaz"
    - create menu.lst with:
    title Slitaz
    kernel bzimage rw root=/dev/null autologin
    initrd rootfs.gz
    - reboot and choose slitaz boot entry

    3- now you can use slitaz-installer...

    -pascal

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    #3 2009-08-04 01:42:47

    slicel
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    Re: Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

    Hello.

    1- build floppies on a Windows box with Internet access

    What if the box is not windows?

    2- extract floppies on target box

    If the box is running Windows9x type:

    What if the box is not windows?

    If the target box has 24Mb+ use http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/rootfs-base.g

    Is it impossible to install on less than 24mb ram?

    slitaz 3 35mb iso=25 floppies?
    slitaz 0 15mb iso=11 floppies?

    Thank you.

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  • slicelslicel October 2009
    #4 2009-08-04 06:57:13

    snowpine
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    Re: Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

    Slicel, this is 2009... 23mb floppy-only computers belong in the closet. smile

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    #5 2009-08-04 07:40:08

    slicel
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    Re: Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

    snowpine wrote:

    Slicel, this is 2009... 23mb floppy-only computers belong in the closet. smile

    Spork is running a contest- http://forum.slitaz.org/viewtopic.php?id=2716 .

    Slitaz 3=220 160kb 5 inch floppy disks.

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    #6 2009-08-04 11:00:07

    bellard
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    Re: Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

    Hi,

    slicel wrote:

    What if the box is not windows?

    slicel wrote:

    Is it impossible to install on less than 24mb ram?

    You need a friend with a computer and either:
    - a Slitaz running
    - or a cdrom to boot Slitaz (with http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/floppy-grub4dos
    floppy if the bios can boot the cdrom)
    - or an Internet access to boot from the web (see http://boot.slitaz.org/)

    Put your hard disk into his computer has a second drive and install Slitaz
    on your disk.

    Put back the disk into your computer and you should be able to boot Slitaz
    with 16Mb only.

    If your computer has an USB port then put http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/2.0/packages-2.0.iso
    on an USB key and boot on this key (should boot with 32Mb, see http://wiki.slitaz.org/doku.php?id=quic … offlinedvd).
    The http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/floppy-grub4dos floppy supports USB key boot if your BIOS doesn't.

    -pascal

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    #7 2009-08-04 17:39:18

    spork
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    Re: Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

    bellard wrote:

    If your computer has an USB port then put http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/2.0/packages-2.0.iso
    on an USB key and boot on this key (should boot with 32Mb, see http://wiki.slitaz.org/doku.php?id=quic … offlinedvd).
    The http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/floppy-grub4dos floppy supports USB key boot if your BIOS doesn't.

    Well, if a computer can boot up from USB (or let alone *have* a USB port), why does it need to be booted up from a floppy? big_smile

    Last edited by spork (2009-08-04 17:40:05)

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    #8 2009-08-04 19:26:20

    Linea
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    Re: Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

    Hi spork

    We need some cartoons for the Newsletter smile

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    #9 2009-08-04 20:12:59

    slicel
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    Re: Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

    Put your hard disk into his computer has a second drive and install Slitaz
    on your disk.

    I suggested moving hd to both chap and ran but they chose a linux that was easy to install by floppy instead of slitaz (although bellard's windows instructions might have helped).

    Does the slitaz boot-floppy boot from pcmcia cd/dvd and pcmcia usb key because ran had trouble with pcmcia cd?

    Question about booting from pcmcia usb key on old computers- post #2 http://forum.slitaz.org/viewtopic.php?id=2685

    Thank you.

    Last edited by slicel (2009-08-04 20:16:52)

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  • slicelslicel October 2009
    Have live cd preload gparted and make hd swap for low-ram

    Hello. Have live cd preload gparted and make hd swap for low-ram machines.

    It could be a manual utility instead of automatic detection.

    Example-

    If ram=16mb, mount hd and make 300mb swap and load live cd to ram and swap.

    Advantage-

    Do not need separate low-ram flavors as much.

    Thank you.

    Last edited by slicel (2009-07-14 17:39:24)

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    #2 2009-07-29 22:34:30

    slicel
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    Re: Have live cd preload gparted and make hd swap for low-ram

    Two things would make slitaz great for old computers-

    1-Live cd and tazusb memory requirements met by ram+swap (not just ram).

    2-Boot live cd and tazusb key from pcmcia usb card.

    Ran http://forum.slitaz.org/viewtopic.php?id=1140 has trouble with ibm 560e laptop with 32mb ram (I think +16mb base) and 240mb hd.

    Imagine if ran could set entire 240mb hd as swap (+32mb ram=272mb memory) and boot 1gb tazusb key in pcmcia usb card (like changing 32mb ram and 240mb hd into 272mb "ram" and 1000mb "hd").

    Thank you.

    Last edited by slicel (2009-07-29 22:37:05)

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    "Have live cd preload gparted and make hd swap for low-ram"
    "Be able to enter safe mode or slitaz setup or text login during boot"
    "Stop xvesa from configuring video, use default vga=normal"

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