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Slitaz + Nvidia + 1680x1050 [SOLVED]

cpcnw — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:59:49 +0200

Hi cpcnw

I can probably lend a hand: I wrote the original forum/wiki stuff for the Nvidia drivers.

But first we need some instructions on building a custom kernel:

http://forum.slitaz.org/comments.php?DiscussionID=77&page=1#Item_0

@pascal - Are you OK to do this?

@pankso - Any chance of a 'temporary' wiki page to post this kind of stuff.

Thanks

Paul

What is the future roadmap of Slitaz?

cpcnw — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:35:42 +0100

Hi,

We had (have) some problem with the forum-wiki-mirror these last weeks and still have to find a solution, we must also put a new wiki online. But developement is more than alive, commits never stop, you can follow contributors work in real time throught Mercurial repository: http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/

On SliTaz Labs you can find the Roadmap to 3.0 and some tiny news.

Roadmap: http://labs.slitaz.org/projects/roadmap/distro
News: http://labs.slitaz.org/news

- Christophe

Kernel Config

cpcnw — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:35:19 +0200

Pretty sure the kernel source will build a default copy *during the installation process* !!

other languages...

michaa808 — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:39:04 +0100

i need help .. ive been using slitaz for quite some time now on some pc's in work .
everything is working very good .. expect i want to be able to write in other languages..
for example .. hebrew or arabic ..
i have no problem entering a site.... but i want to be able to write !
can anybody please guide me through this proccess!!!
thnx :D :**

winter time

oui — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:30:16 +0100

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

installing drivers: need howto

lmart — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:07:27 +0200

#1:
You don't unpack a .run file, you run it. Normally when you download these files, you'll need to make them executable:
chmod +x
and then run it with:
./
It'll probably fail because SliTaz uses XVesa, not Xorg. See: http://www.slitaz.org/en/doc/handbook/x-window.html

#2: There is another forum article about the IPW2200 driver.

#3: Yes. Unless it's installed to hard disk.

How to install apps permemently on LiveUSB

marcolphus — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:49:39 +0200

"tazusb writefs gzip"

http://slitaz.org/en/doc/handbook/liveusb.html

Linux kernel headers

adavr — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:52:33 +0200

Could you post the commands you typed and the last few lines, say 10, of the output so we can see exactly what's going on pls?
Thanks.

mplayer did not find dvd drive

rodrigo — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:02:30 +0200

Xine would not play until I installed package for dvd block device.

Convert deb rpm how to?

slicel — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:27:35 +0200

Old forum cache-

#1 2009-05-22 16:07:52

fireflyoo
Member

[script]deb2tazpkg

filename: deb2tazpkg
description:as the name,switch the debian package(deb) to slitaz package(tazpkg).
Code:

#!/bin/sh
dpkg-deb -e $1 /tmp
package=$(grep '^ *Package' /tmp/control)
package=$(echo ${package##*:})
version=$(grep '^ *Version' /tmp/control)
version=$(echo ${version##*:})
descrip=$(grep '^ *Description' /tmp/control)
descrip=$(echo ${descrip##*:})
file="$package-$version"
file="$package-$version"
mkdir -p $file/fs/
dpkg-deb -x $1 $file/fs
echo "\
# SliTaz package receipt.
PACKAGE=\"$package\"
VERSION=\"$version\"
CATEGORY=\"free\"
SHORT_DESC=\"$descrip\"
MAINTAINER=\"tux@slitaz.org\"
DEPENDS=\"\" " > $file/receipt
rm /tmp/*
tazpkg pack $file

usage example
Code:

deb2tazpkg example.deb

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#2 2009-05-23 21:42:40

Linea
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Re: [script]deb2tazpkg

Hi fireflyoo

I just tried this with Picasa 3: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html

And it worked!

Paul

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#3 2009-05-23 22:58:12

MImoza
Member

Re: [script]deb2tazpkg

a package for this will be very usefull for everybody wink

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#4 2009-05-23 23:36:09

Pankso
Contributor

Re: [script]deb2tazpkg

Hi,

Nice touch fireflyoo! I also did a similar script a few time ago. I think a command 'deb2taz' in Tazpkg will be welcome

http://labs.slitaz.org/projects/list_files/tazpkg

- Christophe

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#5 2009-05-24 10:03:16

Linea
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Re: [script]deb2tazpkg

Hi

Any chance of a rpm2taz[pkg] smile

Paul

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#6 2009-05-24 16:23:44

Bob le Pointu
Contributor

Re: [script]deb2tazpkg

Any chance to see the same script without using dpkg-dev ?

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#7 2009-05-24 18:18:53

davesurrey
Member

Re: [script]deb2tazpkg

Sorry but am I missing something?

I thought that a deb package is used with a package manager (apt, or synaptic if you prefer a GUI). The package manager downloads the deb from a specific repository eg Debian Lenny or Ubutnu Ibex. Therefore it knows what libraries etc should already exist within that specific distro and what additional dependencies need to be downloaded. And then it automatically downloads them.

And in a similar way a tazpkg is downloaded to a specific Slitaz system and thereby knows what dependencies are needed for that app to work on that specific distro and auto downloads them.

Surely downloading any deb package from any debian/ubuntu/whatever source to slitaz won't necessarily result in the correct dependencies being downloaded in the same way they would if it were a "real" tazpkg with the correct receipt??

Or am I wrong?

edited: to correct typos

Last edited by davesurrey (2009-05-24 18:23:00)

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#8 2009-05-24 18:26:31

Bob le Pointu
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Re: [script]deb2tazpkg

You're right, some packages will work, other won't because SliTaz packages names are not always the same as other distros.

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#9 2009-05-24 18:47:16

davesurrey
Member

Re: [script]deb2tazpkg

Hi Bob,
Yes but I think there is something more fundamantal.

Let's take an example of an application A which needs dependencies B, C and D in Debian Etch.

If Debian Etch base install has B already installed then it is necessary for the package installer only to automatically download C and D as well as A.

But if a base install of Slitaz includes C but not B and D then it is necessary for SliTaz package manager to download A , B and D and not C.

How would that script work it out? I can't see it would be able to do so.

Am I correct or perhaps I don't understand it correctly?

dave

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install opera

tikbalang — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:21:22 +0200

Hi,

Did you upgrade (tazpkg upgrade) ?
Get-opera works fine for me in 2.0. (should be fixed by http://hg.slitaz.org/wok-stable/rev/4ac9ea748ca7)
http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/log?rev=get-opera

-pascal

Power management how to?

slicel — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:15:19 +0200

Old forum cache, incomplete information-

standard slitaz that uses less power and ram than bigger distros

1-slitaz 2 did not fix problem of using more power than bigger vista.

http://forum.slitaz.org/viewtopic.php?id=1954

2-slitaz 3 is going to need more ram than bigger xubuntu.

slitaz ram system requirements http://labs.slitaz.org/wiki/distro/Roadmap-3_0

slitaz 1=128mb
slitaz 2=160mb
slitaz 3=256mb

xubuntu 9.04 ram system requirements http://www.xubuntu.org/get
install=128mb
live cd=192mb

Thank you.

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#2 Yesterday 17:00:37

jozee
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Re: standard slitaz that uses less power and ram than bigger distros

slitaz 2 did not fix problem of using more power than bigger vista.

small power management utility is a good idea. I will think more about that. It does not feel good to read this comparison with vista sad when we know that, with some pkgs installation and small tweaks, slitaz is probably the most power efficient OS.

slitaz 3 is going to need more ram than bigger xubuntu.

Yes, the RAM requirement will be 256Mb. But, we do have slitaz-loram flavor that has much lower (unparalleled) RAM requirements. loram does not mean fewer pkgs (or fewer modules). Its just a different way of booting the live CD.

Probably, it may be an idea to discuss if we should include slitaz-loram related pkgs into the main CD. They are very light.

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#3 Yesterday 18:29:11

slicel
Member

Re: standard slitaz that uses less power and ram than bigger distros

It does not feel good to read this comparison with vista sad when we know that, with some pkgs installation and small tweaks, slitaz is probably the most power efficient OS.

Yes, windows laptops have easy, fine-grained power controls but slitaz has potential to be low-power king.

I know slitaz has low-ram flavors but I thought (maybe wrongly) that whatever the ram that xubuntu needs, standard slitaz should need less, especially so that slitaz does not abandon its founding goals.

Adding a low-ram boot option to the standard iso to reduce complexity of having multiple flavors sounds like a good idea.

It also would be good if the standard slitaz 3 live cd would work with 8mb ram and 250mb swap or even no ram card and 256mb swap (with live cd allowing you first to use a stand-alone gparted utility to make the swap).

Thank you.

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#4 Yesterday 22:27:33

spork
Member

Re: standard slitaz that uses less power and ram than bigger distros

Actually, most versions of linux on modern laptops get less power than windows:
http://www.osnews.com/thread?230516

Nonetheless, slitaz gets about 1/2 hour less battery time than Xubuntu 9.04.

Here is a tip: If you have an ATI graphics card, try adding "DynamicClocks" "on" in your xorg.conf .

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#5 Today 00:36:27

slicel
Member

Re: standard slitaz that uses less power and ram than bigger distros

Vista beat the linuxes I tried because the latest windows advanced power management allows fine-tuning of on-demand power such as powering down usb ports and setting minimum processor state to 5% even while on ac plug.

http://blogs.msdn.com/richardt/archive/ … uency.aspx

http://blogs.technet.com/lmeg/archive/2 … urces.aspx

Unfortunately, slitaz does not even offer brightness setting (a big factor).

http://forum.slitaz.org/viewtopic.php?id=1836

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#6 Today 02:52:21

spork
Member

Re: standard slitaz that uses less power and ram than bigger distros

I'll try to make a power manager for slitaz. Possible settings:
* brightness (if available)
* CPU scaling
* disable cdrom polling

Options that aren't available will be shaded (so it can't be activated by user).
Any suggestions/criticisms/comments would be encouraged.

Last edited by spork (Today 03:46:34)

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#7 Today 04:56:43

slicel
Member

Re: standard slitaz that uses less power and ram than bigger distros

A good template is the vista advanced power settings with their extensive tree of options, while lesswatts.org provides some linux scripts.

video after 7 min. mark- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxASUSh4n3U

Setting minimum cpu % is more important than maximum but setting both anywhere 1-100% is better.

Another significant power draw is wifi and gigabit.

Suspend/hibernate with password on wakeup is important and I noticed a pm-utils package is available now but do not know how to use it.

I think swappiness might adjust writing to disk.

The one place where I would like more power is sound because slitaz 100% volume is weak compared to volume on dual-boot windows.

Thank you.

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Floppy install how to?

slicel — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:11:09 +0200

Old forum cache, incomplete information

Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

Chap chose another linux instead of slitaz because slitaz was not friendly to floppy install- http://forum.slitaz.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12989#p12989 .

Ran chose tinylinux instead of slitaz because slitaz was too difficult to install- http://forum.slitaz.org/viewtopic.php?id=1140 .

Some people want to use whatever is in their closet without getting any new hardware and that can mean no cd but a stack of floppies..

Solution-

Make floppy flavor with instructions for installation on a few floppies-

-Only browser is "links" (first public slitaz was 15mb- http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/archive … 84208.html ).
-Working dialup.
-Text login as boot default (type startx for gui).

Thank you.

Last edited by slicel (2009-08-03 19:20:26)

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#2 2009-08-03 21:53:03

bellard
Contributor

Re: Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

Hi,

You can install Slitaz using floppies with the following steps:

1- build floppies on a Windows box with Internet access

Download a kernel http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/bzImage

Download a initramfs and rename it to rootfs.gz
If the target box has 160Mb+ use http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/rootfs.gz
If the target box has 64Mb+ use http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/rootfs-loram.
If the target box has 48Mb+ use http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/rootfs-justx.
If the target box has 24Mb+ use http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/rootfs-base.g

If the target box is running Windows9x, download http://busybox.net/~vda/linld/LINLD.COM

If the target box is running Windows NT/2k/XP, download http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/grldr

Archive these files on floppies with your favorite utility (arj, winzip...)

2- extract floppies on target box

If the box is running Windows9x type:
C:\> linld image=bzimage initrd=rootfs.gz "cl=rw root=/dev/null autologin"

If the box is running Windows NT/2k/XP
- append boot.ini with c:\grldr="slitaz"
- create menu.lst with:
title Slitaz
kernel bzimage rw root=/dev/null autologin
initrd rootfs.gz
- reboot and choose slitaz boot entry

3- now you can use slitaz-installer...

-pascal

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#3 2009-08-04 01:42:47

slicel
Member

Re: Floppy flavor, half the size without firefox

Hello.

1- build floppies on a Windows box with Internet access

What if the box is not windows?

2- extract floppies on target box

If the box is running Windows9x type:

What if the box is not windows?

If the target box has 24Mb+ use http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/2.0/rootfs-base.g

Is it impossible to install on less than 24mb ram?

slitaz 3 35mb iso=25 floppies?
slitaz 0 15mb iso=11 floppies?

Thank you.

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Xorg how to?

slicel — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:58:46 +0200

Old forum cache, incomplete information-

Xorg flavor iso to download

There are many old computers with neomagic that cannot use Xvesa.

Old computers often do not have working internet immediately and do not have enough ram to make flavors.

Here is an incomplete (last updated 1998) but long list of computers using neomagic-

http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/neomagic.html

Maybe the flavor would be optimized for that vintage of computer but at least a general xorg flavor would help many

new linux users who otherwise might get a bad impression of slitaz when their installations fail to display properly

"out of the box."

Thank you.

Last edited by slicel (2009-07-05 18:51:43)

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#2 2009-07-05 18:54:04

spork
Member

Re: Xorg flavor iso to download

Yes, I would like that too. Could it have all the different drivers (ati, neomagic) so the user can choose one at

boot, and not download anything?

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#3 2009-07-05 20:20:22

bikepunk
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Re: Xorg flavor iso to download

+1

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#4 2009-07-06 15:26:00

slicel
Member

Re: Xorg flavor iso to download

I do not understand how we are supposed to know which of the big list of xorg modules to install to replace xvesa.

I do not understand how we are supposed to use tazlito without knowing all the depends of any desired module.

Thank you.

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#5 2009-07-06 19:39:39

spork
Member

Re: Xorg flavor iso to download

slicel wrote:

I do not understand how we are supposed to know which of the big list of xorg modules to install to replace

xvesa.

We have them all available on the CD, and the user chooses it - just like the way it works now - but without any

downloading.

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#6 2009-07-07 04:18:43

slicel
Member

Re: Xorg flavor iso to download

I do not understand how we are supposed to know which xorg packages to choose to replace xvesa.

I followed instructions to install xorg-server and my video driver but it failed to work.

Last edited by slicel (2009-07-07 04:21:24)

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#7 2009-07-07 08:17:31

rxd
Member

Re: Xorg flavor iso to download

http://forum.slitaz.org/viewtopic.php?id=2179

See the iso Melos did, driver is ok for some notebooks using vesa driver, only ctrl-alt-backspace freezes my screen.

I installed the intel driver doesn't seem to work and vesa driver does not work on my intel chip.

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#8 2009-07-07 11:22:44

slicel
Member

Re: Xorg flavor iso to download

Melos' iso gave error AA, AX=4240 drive EO, boot error.

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#9 2009-07-14 01:21:45

spork
Member

Re: Xorg flavor iso to download

(blows dust off /home/slitaz)
I hacked my GIMP/slitaz iso and added the neomagic module and Xorg. In the tazx prompt, scroll down to where "xorg"

is, but select "neomagic" instead. That should set it up and work nicely.

It is about 40.7MB, MD5: 8a9c92e1874ce0863be3061809e76391

Get it here

Let me know how it works!

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#10 2009-07-14 16:04:48

slicel
Member

Re: Xorg flavor iso to download

Spork, thank you but after the splash screen-

VFS: Cannot open root device "null" or unknown block(0,0)
Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions:
0100 4096 ram0 (driver?)
...
0301 907641 hda1
0302 152617 hda2
0340 41630 hdb driver: ide-cdrom
Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)

Maybe the iso is not set for my hd (non-sata), partitions, swap, or ram size.

I think I figured out the needed packages if I could get tazlito to work.

Thank you.

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No slitaz instller on Slitaz 2.0 LiveCD

sunliwei — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:07:09 +0200

A KDE Desktop? Are you sure this is Slitaz? ;)

Battery Status

silversurfer — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:40:13 +0200

Look into laptop mode.

Trying to install SliTaz on old compaq laptop, need help!

Bremaine — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:13:05 +0200

I believe you need the loram version, since your computer has only 64MB...
http://download.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/iso/2.0/flavors/

You may get the loram-cdrom version so you can get all the way down to 10MB :D

Intel PRO-Wireless 2200BG - need howto

lmart — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:23:07 +0200

Hi,

You need a firmware. Slitaz has a script for that :

# get-ipw2200-firmware

You can use the wireless-manager box too, drivers tab.

-pascal

options on booting

lmart — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:21:32 +0200

http://forum.slitaz.org/comments.php?DiscussionID=49&page=1#Item_2

Create a file called "/etc/TZ" containing:

GMT

One called "/etc/locale.conf" containing:

LANG = en_GB
LC_ALL = en_GB

and finally "/etc/keymap.conf" containing:

uk

SliTaz searches for those files and asks you if they're not found. I think ConfigureX needs the rc script to be edited, where sound card configuration can also be found.

If you place those files in to /home/tux/rootfs/etc and use Tazlito to burn a new ISO, it'll keep the settings.

cups-pdf printer

lmart — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:22:21 +0200

how do you install cups-pdf printer?

Mono - Vala - Génie - Qt or better Python or Perl - one under the C's?

oui — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:40:18 +0200

hi oui,
i just read about genie/vala a few days back and found out that the puppylinux guys have already started using genie , no particular programs are puppy browser and pictureviewer available in /usr/local/bin ( just checked it out in qemulator today).
i really want to learn genie as gui programming seemingly becomes very easy. if you are interested barry kauler has already started some tutorials here
http://puppylinux.com/genie/ , i know only a little bash/ash scripting, but i think genie/vala could be of use to add a lot tools in slitaz.

Kernel Panic?!!! I can not install SliTaz.

gf_nr — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:59:23 +0200

Hi,

PIC has 128Mb RAM only. Try a loram flavor.
http://download.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/iso/2.0/flavors/slitaz-loram.iso

-pascal

User groups

spork — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:59:08 +0200

Hello,
I need certain "levels" of user groups. For instance, one group can only run OpenOffice, another group can access the internet, etc.

Is it possible to do this?
Thanks!

enable dhcp on all lan cards

tikbalang — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:00:57 +0200

Hi tikbalang

Have tried editing /etc/network.conf

# Set default interface.
INTERFACE="eth1"

Hibernating with Slitaz 2.0

Kernel — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:41:18 +0200

Someone asked about this on the old forum, but I don't think a solution was found yet.
You could try installing acpid and run one of the scripts in /etc/acpi/, but I don't know if they work yet.

Slitaz with children and education

oui — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:02:56 +0200

I've tried these on xubuntu, but you could compile them in Slitaz:

TuxPaint
Childsplay (now Schoolsplay)
TuxMath

linux and travel, camping, aventure, hiker, biker etc

oui — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:55:31 +0200

Hi

Difficulties to see the texts in Google Earth give occasion to start this discussion! oh, you did find a solution or did not have such problems?

And with GPS?

Bye

testing of the forum

deadwait — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:12:31 +0200

I just realized how much is missing.
So far, I haven't found a way to add inline images, click on links, quote, look at a user list, offline/online status, or add code boxes. I sure hope there are addons to fix all this.
I like the option of thumbnails, but I would gladly give it up to get all the old features (and posts) back.

Bloated mystery gb is back

slicel — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:34:49 +0200

Cooking 2.6.30.6 was less than 1gb on a 2gb partition (no personal files) when suddenly the entire 2gb partition was full and flash, lxpanel, and conky were broken so I deleted tazpkg cache just to get 100mb free space so lxpanel would load.

I recently installed a few small packages (100kb to 10mb, like dvd block device to get xine to play dvd, still should have had 1gb free) but nothing I can think to explain the vanishing free gb.

Pcman sort by size does not seem to work and does not list folders in size order.

Something similar happened before (not sure which kernel) so I did a complete reinstall of the os but now it happened again.

Now I do not have room to install dialup packages to see if they work.

How do I fix it?

Thank you.

Compile problems - configure fails

Elmi — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:13:05 +0200

Hi,

Maybe some tools are missing.
You can try install/reinstall slitaz-toolchain package.

+Erjo